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(Created page with "It is very important to only buy high quality lithium ion batteries. Improperly build battery packs can lead to catastrophic fires resulting in loss of property and life. Lithium ion batteries can combust when improperly charged or discharged and can't be extinguished by water. as such there are only a few retailers we are willing to endorse. Its highly recommended to go with these resellers or at least do serious research on who you plan to buy packs from. Do not buy...")
 
(Created page with "==Brushless Motors== Brushless motors for e-bikes are a very mature technology and you can shop just about anywhere and expect to get a very usable motor. Wattage and amperage ratings however can be very strange to say the least and many advertisements bare little resemblance to reality. Many sellers will sell 250W/500W/750W rated motors that greatly exceed those specs, underrated so they can advertise to people looking for a legal motor in their country. Others will...")
 
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It is very important to only buy high quality lithium ion batteries. Improperly build battery packs can lead to catastrophic fires resulting in loss of property and life.
==Brushless Motors==


Lithium ion batteries can combust when improperly charged or discharged and can't be extinguished by water. as such there are only a few retailers we are willing to endorse. Its highly recommended to go with these resellers or at least do serious research on who you plan to buy packs from. Do not buy battery packs off random ebay/amazon/aliexpress pages, their quality often leaves much to be desired.  
Brushless motors for e-bikes are a very mature technology and you can shop just about anywhere and expect to get a very usable motor. Wattage and amperage ratings however can be very strange to say the least and many advertisements bare little resemblance to reality. Many sellers will sell 250W/500W/750W rated motors that greatly exceed those specs, underrated so they can advertise to people looking for a legal motor in their country.  


==Where to buy:==
Others will over rate their motors to make it more attractive to people who wish to get maximum performance.
We currently recommend the following dealers.


[https://em3ev.com/ EM3ev] - High quality hand-made batteries shipped from China. Comes equipped with a bluetooth compatible BMS so you can monitor your batteries health and performance with a cellphone app. Highly recommended.
A better indicator is to ignore watts and look at amps, they tend to lie less about the amperage rating. Multiply your battery voltage by amps to get your true wattage rating. For example a 10A controller on a 52V battery will give you 520W.


[https://lunacycle.com/18650-ebike-battery-pack/ Luna Cycle] - high quality batteries shipped from USA


Unit Pack Power used to be on our list, but due to several recently raised safety concerns and a couple of known fires, we no longer recommend this seller
==Mid Drives==


==Reputable Cell Providers==
Below is a list of the most common Mid drive motors:
*BSS02 (25A at 52V, 1300W)
*BSSHD (30A at 52V, 1560W)
*BSSUltra (30A at 52V, 1560W, built in torque sensor, requires custom frame to mount)
*Cyclone (40A at 48v to 72v, 2KW to 3KW)
*Cyclone Mini (40A at 48v to 72v, 2KW to 3KW)
*TSDZ2 (14A at 52v, 750W, built in torque sensor)


Here, we are listing battery cell suppliers known by members to sell legit cells. Cells are purchased only when someone wishes to make a DIY battery pack.
Good places to buy mid drives include
*[http://sickbikeparts.com/electric-shifter-kit-programmable-3000w/ Sick Bike Parts] has the best cyclone package in town with upgraded waterproof motor connector and bluetooth programmable controller.
*[https://lunacycle.com/mid-drive-kits/ LunaCycle] Has the BSS02, BSSHD, Cyclone and Cyclone Mini.


[https://www.nkon.nl/ nkon.nl]
==Hub Motors==


[https://www.imrbatteries.com/ IMRBatteries]
Unlike mid drives, there are far too many hub motors to list here, but here are some of the more unique ones:
 
*Grin All Axle Hub: 500W continuous, 1000W peak, Hub with innovative torque arm solution and support for quick release, though axle and more via axle adapters.
*GMAC: 600W continuous, 1200W peak, 138mm dropouts, Clutchless geared hub, unique among geared hubs in that it allows regen braking.
*QS205: 3000W continuous, 6000W peak, 150mm dropouts. Super high power hub motor.
 
Good places to buy hub motors include:
*[https://www.ebikes.ca/shop/electric-bicycle-parts/motors.html Grintech]
 
==Notes==
 
Both hub motors and mid drives can also be bought from various run your own e-store services like
*[https://Amazon.com Amazon.com]
*[https://Ebay.com Ebay.com]
*And other large online drop ship retailers like aliexpress
 
Look for people with high feedback (95%+) if you do buy from those services as not all sellers are equal in customer service.
 
It is generally recommend to [[Batteries | buy your battery]] separate from a reputable vendor

Latest revision as of 08:25, 15 January 2022

Brushless Motors

Brushless motors for e-bikes are a very mature technology and you can shop just about anywhere and expect to get a very usable motor. Wattage and amperage ratings however can be very strange to say the least and many advertisements bare little resemblance to reality. Many sellers will sell 250W/500W/750W rated motors that greatly exceed those specs, underrated so they can advertise to people looking for a legal motor in their country.

Others will over rate their motors to make it more attractive to people who wish to get maximum performance.

A better indicator is to ignore watts and look at amps, they tend to lie less about the amperage rating. Multiply your battery voltage by amps to get your true wattage rating. For example a 10A controller on a 52V battery will give you 520W.


Mid Drives

Below is a list of the most common Mid drive motors:

  • BSS02 (25A at 52V, 1300W)
  • BSSHD (30A at 52V, 1560W)
  • BSSUltra (30A at 52V, 1560W, built in torque sensor, requires custom frame to mount)
  • Cyclone (40A at 48v to 72v, 2KW to 3KW)
  • Cyclone Mini (40A at 48v to 72v, 2KW to 3KW)
  • TSDZ2 (14A at 52v, 750W, built in torque sensor)

Good places to buy mid drives include

  • Sick Bike Parts has the best cyclone package in town with upgraded waterproof motor connector and bluetooth programmable controller.
  • LunaCycle Has the BSS02, BSSHD, Cyclone and Cyclone Mini.

Hub Motors

Unlike mid drives, there are far too many hub motors to list here, but here are some of the more unique ones:

  • Grin All Axle Hub: 500W continuous, 1000W peak, Hub with innovative torque arm solution and support for quick release, though axle and more via axle adapters.
  • GMAC: 600W continuous, 1200W peak, 138mm dropouts, Clutchless geared hub, unique among geared hubs in that it allows regen braking.
  • QS205: 3000W continuous, 6000W peak, 150mm dropouts. Super high power hub motor.

Good places to buy hub motors include:

Notes

Both hub motors and mid drives can also be bought from various run your own e-store services like

Look for people with high feedback (95%+) if you do buy from those services as not all sellers are equal in customer service.

It is generally recommend to buy your battery separate from a reputable vendor

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