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(Created page with "List provides a general comparison of some popular and interesting models but is not comprehensive. All models shipped from the USA unless otherwise noted. Please note that range has been recalculated from a flat 10WH/KM figure, valid for riding at about 25kph (15mph) in an upright position. Expect range to be half that at 40kph (25mph) and one quarter at 60kph (37mph) due to wind resistance increasing at the square of speed. ==Budget list (<$2000)== {|class="wikit...")
 
(Created page with "Motor controllers are what convert the DC of your battery into 3 phase AC for your motor. They determine the maximum current and hence wattage that goes to your motor and automatically adjust the amount of current sent depending on the throttle settings. Some motor controllers are programmable and have adjustable current limits and other settings while others are fixed. Most e-bike controllers can be used with most motors, however pairing a high power controller with a...")
 
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List provides a general comparison of some popular and interesting models but is not comprehensive.
Motor controllers are what convert the DC of your battery into 3 phase AC for your motor.


All models shipped from the USA unless otherwise noted.  
They determine the maximum current and hence wattage that goes to your motor and automatically adjust the amount of current sent depending on the throttle settings.


Please note that range has been recalculated from a flat 10WH/KM figure, valid for riding at about 25kph (15mph) in an upright position. Expect range to be half that at 40kph (25mph) and one quarter at 60kph (37mph) due to wind resistance increasing at the square of speed.
Some motor controllers are programmable and have adjustable current limits and other settings while others are fixed. Most e-bike controllers can be used with most motors, however pairing a high power controller with a low power motor will likely overheat the motor.


As its your motor controller that sets the maximum battery current, you must select a battery that can supply as many amps as your controller is rated for or more.


==Budget list (<$2000)==
Controllers also act as switch mode power supplies and can trade off voltage for amps. This is why controllers will have a 'phase amp' and 'battery amp' setting. Battery amps determines your maximum battery current and hence max wattage (equivalent to horsepower) while phase amps is the maximum output current at slow speed and determines your maximum torque. Do note that its phase amps that cause heating in a motor (Watts dissipated as heat = Current ^ 2 * winding resistance), so while a high phase amp controller gives you more torque at slow speeds it will also cause much more heating when you use that extra torque.


{|class="wikitable sortable"
Controllers come with a few different features that should be looked for:
!Name!!data-sort-type="currency"|Price!!data-sort-type="number"|Speed!!data-sort-type="number"|Range!!data-sort-type="number"|Battery!!data-sort-type="number"|Motor Power!!Motor type!! Bike type!!Throttle?!!Drive!!Brakes!!Tires!!Suspension!!Notes
|-
|[https://shop.sondors.com/products/sondors-original-us-canada-shipping-oct18 Sondors Original ebike]              ||$1199 || 32KPH 20MPH || 31KM 19MI ||  313WH (36V*8.7AH) || 350W || Rear geared hub || Fat bike || Yes || Chain || Mech Disc || Fat Dirt || None ||
|-
|[http://www.propellabikes.com/ Propella electric bike v3.2]                                                      ||$1299 || 29KPH 18MPH || 25KM 15MI||  252WH (36V*7AH) || 250W || Rear geared hub || Road bike || No || Chain || Mech Disc || Road || None||  Price includes S/H and is a preorder price not retail. They have single speed or geared available.
|-
|[https://www.costco.com/Jetson-Adventure-Electric-Bike-.product.100370011.html Costco jetson adventure]          ||$1299 || 32KPH 20MPH || 28KM 17MI || 280WH (36V*7.8AH) || 250W || Rear geared hub || MTB || No || Chain || Mech Disc || Road || Front ||
|-
|[https://voltonbicycles.com/shop/alation-500/ Volton Bicycles Alation 500]                                        || $1400 || 45KPH 28MPH || 53KM 33MI || 528WH (48V*11AH) || 500W || Rear geared hub || Commuter || Yes || Chain || Mech Disc|| Road || Front ||
|-
|[https://shop.sondors.com/pages/sondors-x-may-shipping Sondors X]                                                || $1499 ||  32KPH 20MPH || 84KM 52MI || 840WH (48V*17.5AH) || 500W || Rear geared hub || Beach || Yes || Chain || Mech Disc||Fat || None ||
|-
|[https://www.radpowerbikes.com/products/radrover-electric-fat-bike?variant=5032654929951 RadRover]                || $1499 || 32KPH 20MPH || 67KM 42MI || 672WH (48V*14AH) || 750W || Rear geared hub || Fat bike || Yes || Chain || Mech Disc||Fat || Front ||
|-
|[https://prodecotech.com/electric-bikes/islander-series/ ProdecoTech Islander 3.6]                                || $1599 || 32KPH 20MPH || 53KM 33MI || 528WH (48V*11AH) || 400W || Rear DD hub ||  Beach cruiser || Yes || Chain || Hydraulic Disc || Dirt || None || 
|-
|[https://www.voltbike.com/voltbike-outback.html Voltbike Outback]                                                ||$1699 || 32KPH 20MPH || 56KM 35MI || 556WH (48V*11.6AH) || 1000W || Rear DD hub || MTB || Yes|| Chain ||Hydraulic Disc ||Off-Road ||Full ||  Canadian
|-
|[https://lunacycle.com/luna-folding-ebike/ Luna Folding Ebike]                                                    ||$1699 || 48KPH 30MPH || 31KM 19MI || 312WH (52V*6AH) || 750W || Mid drive || Folding Commuter || Yes || Chain || Mech Disc || Road || None||
|-
|[https://www.juicedbikes.com/products/crosscurrent-s2 Juiced Riders Cross Current S2]                            || $1799 || 45KPH 28MPH || 68KM 42MI || 676WH (52V*13AH) || 350W || Rear geared hub || Road Bike || No || Chain || Mech Disc || Road || Front ||
|-
|[https://lunacycle.com/luna-sixfifty-lone-wolf-hard-tail/ Luna SixFifty Lone Wolf]                                ||$1999 || 64KPH 40MPH || 62KM 39MI || 624WH (52V*12AH) || 1500W || Mid drive (BBSHD) || MTB || Yes|| Chain ||Mech Disc||Dirt||Front||  2500W available for +$250
|-
|[https://www.biktrix.com/collections/bikes/products/stunner-x Biktrix Stunner X]                                  ||$1999  || 45KPH? 28MPH? || 58KM 36MI || 576WH (48V*12AH) || 750W || Mid drive || Beach cruiser|| Yes|| Chain ||Mech Disc||Fat Dirt||Front|| ships from Canada. Hydraulic brakes +$299, upgraded battery +$


|}
Current or Speed throttle mode: Current mode is much preferred as it allows you to adjust the output torque of the motor for a smooth comfortable and efficient ride. Speed mode is much like the throttle on a tractor, it uses full power to reach a desired speed and then maintains that speed, causing sudden jolts of power whenever you adjust the throttle. Sadly speed throttle mode is much more common then current throttle mode for budget controllers.


Programmability: Some controllers can be programmed via bluetooth or via a cable to a PC or laptop, while others are just fixed. Programmable controllers are much more flexible offering a range of settings like battery amp limit, phase amp limit, soft start, adjustable speed limits, adjustable soft start, etc.


==Mid-range ($2000-3500)==
Sine wave or square/trapezoidal: Sine wave drives are slightly more efficient and cause the motor to produce much less noise then square wave.
{|class="wikitable sortable"
!Name!!data-sort-type="currency"|Price!!data-sort-type="number"|Speed!!data-sort-type="number"|Range!!data-sort-type="number"|Battery!!data-sort-type="number"|Motor Power!!Motor type!! Bike type!!Throttle?!!Drive!!Brakes!!Tires!!Suspension!!Notes
|-
|[http://www.daymak.com/calgary.html Daymak Calgary]                                                            ||$2399 || 32KPH 20MPH || 40KM 25MI || 396WH (36V*11AH) || 350W || Rear unknown hub || MTB? || Yes|| Chain ||Hydraulic Disc||Dirt||Front||
|-
|[https://www.biktrix.com/collections/bikes/products/juggernaut-ultra-1000 Biktrix Juggernaut Ultra 1000]      || $2600 || 56KPH 35MPH || 67KM 42MI || 672WH (48V*14AH) || 1000w || Mid drive (Bafang)  || Fat bike || Yes|| Chain ||Hydraulic* Disc||Fat Dirt||Front|| Ships from Canada *Some specials due to preorder
|-
|[https://www.haibikeusa.com/sduro-trekking-2-0-hi-step-h-24.html 2019 Haibike Sduro Trekking 2.0]              ||$2799 || 32KPH 20MPH || ?KM ?MI || ?WH (36V*?AH) || 250W || Mid drive (Yamaha) || MTB || No || Chain ||Hydraulic Disc||Road||Front||
|-
|[https://www.karmicbikes.com/shop/karmic-koben-m-e7xaw Karmic Koben]                                          ||$3200 || 32KPH 20MPH || 51KM 32MI || 510WH (44V*11.6AH)|| 350W || Mid drive (Bafang Max) || Road bike || No|| Belt ||Hydraulic Disc||Road||None||  Only 500 charge cycles on battery. Multiple sizes.
|-
|[https://lunacycle.com/sur-ron-mx-electric/ Sur-Ron]                                                          ||$3495 || 72KPH 45MPH || 198KM 123MI || 1980WH (60V*33AH) || 5000W || Mid drive || E-dirtbike || Yes|| Chain || Mech Disc|| Dirt ||Full|| Super-Moto Conversion +$350 (street tires)
|}
 
==Premium (>$3500)==
 
{|class="wikitable sortable"
!Name!!data-sort-type="currency"|Price!!data-sort-type="number"|Speed!!data-sort-type="number"|Range!!data-sort-type="number"|Battery!!data-sort-type="number"|Motor Power!!Motor type!! Bike type!!Throttle?!!Drive!!Brakes!!Tires!!Suspension!!Notes
|-
|[https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/electric-hybrid-bikes/allant/allant-8s/p/30265/?colorCode=grey 2020 Trek Allant+ 8S]||$4299 || 45KPH 28MPH || 63KM 39MI || 626WH (36V*17.4AH) || 350W || Mid drive (Bosch) || Commuter || ? || Chain ||Hydraulic Disc||Road||None||
|-
|[https://lunacycle.com/luna-cycle-apollo/ Luna Cycle Apollo]||$5550 || 64KPH 40MPH || 101KM 62MI || 1092WH (52V*21AH) || 2000W || Mid drive (Peak Mag Ultra) || MTB || Yes || Chain ||Mech Disc||Dirt||Full||
|-
|[https://wattwagons.com/products/ultimate_commuter_pro Ultimate Commuter Pro]||$6499 || 64KPH 40MPH || 72KM 45MI || 880WH (52V*17.5AH) || 750W || Mid drive (Peak Mag Ultra) || Commuter || Yes || Belt ||Hydraulic Disc (Magura)||Road||None|| Rohloff, Brooks Saddle, Kinect Active Suspension Seatpost, Titanium Frame, custom Miranda Cranks, up to 300lb rider
|}
 
 
 
==Other Resources==
Probably the most comprehensive site for US factory-built models is Electric Bike Review. http://electricbikereview.com/
 
 
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This list taken from https://www.reddit.com/r/ebikes/wiki/factory_built courtesy of https://www.reddit.com/r/ebikes

Latest revision as of 08:20, 15 January 2022

Motor controllers are what convert the DC of your battery into 3 phase AC for your motor.

They determine the maximum current and hence wattage that goes to your motor and automatically adjust the amount of current sent depending on the throttle settings.

Some motor controllers are programmable and have adjustable current limits and other settings while others are fixed. Most e-bike controllers can be used with most motors, however pairing a high power controller with a low power motor will likely overheat the motor.

As its your motor controller that sets the maximum battery current, you must select a battery that can supply as many amps as your controller is rated for or more.

Controllers also act as switch mode power supplies and can trade off voltage for amps. This is why controllers will have a 'phase amp' and 'battery amp' setting. Battery amps determines your maximum battery current and hence max wattage (equivalent to horsepower) while phase amps is the maximum output current at slow speed and determines your maximum torque. Do note that its phase amps that cause heating in a motor (Watts dissipated as heat = Current ^ 2 * winding resistance), so while a high phase amp controller gives you more torque at slow speeds it will also cause much more heating when you use that extra torque.

Controllers come with a few different features that should be looked for:

Current or Speed throttle mode: Current mode is much preferred as it allows you to adjust the output torque of the motor for a smooth comfortable and efficient ride. Speed mode is much like the throttle on a tractor, it uses full power to reach a desired speed and then maintains that speed, causing sudden jolts of power whenever you adjust the throttle. Sadly speed throttle mode is much more common then current throttle mode for budget controllers.

Programmability: Some controllers can be programmed via bluetooth or via a cable to a PC or laptop, while others are just fixed. Programmable controllers are much more flexible offering a range of settings like battery amp limit, phase amp limit, soft start, adjustable speed limits, adjustable soft start, etc.

Sine wave or square/trapezoidal: Sine wave drives are slightly more efficient and cause the motor to produce much less noise then square wave.